LC emails ending up in junk
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Kev Lawrence
Emails end up in spam all the time when sending to any Microsoft email account (outlook, hotmail etc)
Also Microsoft regularly blocks emails being sent, at least x2 a month I have to get in touch with support to adjust mailgun server/ip settings to remove the sending domain from whatever blacklist its on that time.
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Mark Hoffman
Any update?
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Dr Svetlana Voloshin
The ability to warm up the sending domains might help.
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Patrick Allmond
Email isn't problem if you set it up right. Curious as to what GHL is going to do now that this is marketing "in progress".
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Skyler Talley
I'Ive sent over 50,000 emails and have never had big isues with lanidng in spam or promotions unless it was my own fault due to key words in the subject. 9/10 the issue you guys are mentioning does not have to do with GHL. It';s your own end on how your creating the emails. Make sure your following best practices like using a name as the sender name (not a business name) and avoid spam / promotional key words in your subject lines.
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Nagui Bihelek
I’ve found a couple of issues worth noting here:
- SPF DNS entry needs to list the sending IP address which support could not provide, but I found it by testing through email-tester which gave us a 5/10 score before adding the IP address which they identified for us. Now score is 10/10 but if GHL change our sending IP we’ll be back where we started, so we have to always test deliverability for each campaign.
- Our team members’ email addresses are from multiple domains, and because we cannot only have one active primary sending domain in GHL, despite having setup multiple domains, only the selected one is used, and this means all their emails fail to get sent because “fail sender verification” error.
We were on Sendgrid before switching to LC and their system, like GHL, allows us to set up multiple sending domains, but they check all our sending domains to match our sender to a verified domain and send from that domain. GHL should have this.
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Yusuf Young
We have done some research and concluded that this is due to Microsoft Office 365 giving us SCL score of 5 when we set up a new email domain to send from.
Priya Jain can help you understand all the details around this and we're happy to help GHL by providing all the research we did around this so that you can understand the issue deeply.
In short, we used MailGun's Inbox Placement tool and found that deliverability is
very good
when we set up custom sending domains, except
for Microsoft Office 365, and the feedback from the Office 365 email service was that our SCL score was 5. Attaching screenshot.We also tested using SendGrid, and found that
all emails go to Inbox, not spam
and Microsoft's SCL was 1 (i.e. Not Spam).It is impossible to know what triggers Microsoft to give it a spam rating, but we believe that it's due to the domain being new (since we have to set up new subdomains to send from GHL), and since Microsoft has never seen or been trained on that subdomain, they rate it as spam.
Here is Microsoft's explanation of what their SCLs mean: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/security/office-365-security/anti-spam-spam-confidence-level-scl-about?view=o365-worldwide
There is an easy way around this, and that is to give us the
option to set up email sending without forcing us to set up MX records
, because then we can send emails from our real domain
without the need to set up new subdomains first.This is something Mailgun supports natively, please see this article: https://help.mailgun.com/hc/en-us/articles/203357040-Can-I-Use-the-Same-Domain-Name-for-Mailgun-and-for-Google-Apps-Or-Another-Email-Server-
The problem today is that in GHL,
we are forced to set up MX Records
, which prevents us from using LeadConnector in the way described above. If you allowed this, the issue is most likely resolved :)Y
Yusuf Young
Question for everybody here: Does this happen even when you set up your own custom sending domain? Or are you sending from the "out of the box" domain that comes with the platform?
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RevEx Group
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Jakin Harper
RevEx Group Any update? it's been a year.
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Robert Dodd
We send to our lead list which is 100% opt-in and the inbox placement is terrible. Sure they get delivered but almost 90% end up never opened in Gmail because they all end up in SPAM. At this point this is not a viable email marketing option. I could understand if you were using this for cold emails, however, when you have 100% cleaned and validated email list and that high a percentage goes to SPAM it's a worthless email option.
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Greg Goodman
Robert Dodd: So what is the alternative? What have you come up with? What are you using now
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